Self(ish) Confidence

[267] [INTERVIEW] Burnout to Breakthrough: Rediscovering Your True Self w/ Dr. Megan Daley

Jess Clerke Episode 267

Step into a transformative journey as we explore burnout, grief, and authentic self-discovery with Dr. Megan Daley. In this episode, Megan candidly shares her powerful experience navigating the complexities of caregiving for her father during his cancer battle, highlighting pivotal moments that can redefine one’s purpose and direction in life. She encourages listeners to confront their truth, urging them to ask themselves, “If I died tomorrow, would I be okay with how I’ve lived?” 

Megan delves deep into the symptoms of burnout, sharing her insights into how it manifests physically and emotionally. Drawing from her journey, she discusses the practical practice of journaling, which helps individuals audit their lives and clarify what truly matters. The conversations emphasize community support as evidence that we are not alone; vulnerability can lead to profound connections and understanding.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Selfish Confidence, a place where we can connect and be real about how hard it is to be your damn self. My name is Jess and my goal is to help you build confidence and belief in yourself to live any life path you want, even if it's unconventional. It's time to flip off societal pressures and connect with women who've also felt on the outside by their life choices. We're here to encourage you to grab the mic and speak your truth. I know it can be scary, but we're in this together. Let's get started. Hello, hello and welcome to this week's episode of Selfish Confidence Podcast. It's Jess here, and today I have a really fun episode for you with my very good friend, dr Megan Daly. How you doing, meg?

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm good. How are you, Jess? I'm grateful to be here.

Speaker 1:

I am really grateful that we're finally sitting down to do this. We have moved this around so many times with different things and phases of life. It's just about time that we're finally having this conversation. I'm so grateful that you're here. So can you tell us about you, Megan, your life and how you got started on this journey that you're on today? Your life and how you got?

Speaker 2:

started on this journey that you're on today. Yeah, so I feel like, with most people right To really tell their story, I'm going to try to like dim, like bring this down to something that's bite-sized. So I'm a doctor of physical therapy. That's like my education, my background. I worked in that field for 10 years and in hindsight it probably took like burnout round number four before I even recognized what it was.

Speaker 2:

Burnout, right, how often are we like no, it's just, it's just a busy season, or like no, like I can handle it, and we make excuses and we think it's normal and anyways. But in 10 years I hit burnout no joke at least seven times. And it was around in between, right, like cause, life's a journey and there's a lot of things going on at once. So in between times six and seven I was my dad's caregiver, so I it was a very, very sudden like he went from I have back pain to oh shit, it's a lung cancer diagnosis and I have three to six months to live and I was living across the country working. So this was seven years into my career. So I up and go back to South Carolina and take leave from my job, and actually that probably was like number six, because if you can imagine, like I was in South Carolina being caregiver and then working in Arizona for two weeks and then back and forth every two weeks for two months, while I was waiting for my licensure to go through in South Carolina, so I could at least pick up some kind of job while being his, but essentially, like I was one of the primary caregivers at end of life for him.

Speaker 2:

And whether it's you or a close one that has a life-threatening diagnosis or a oh, I could have died, like some sort of like big trauma diagnosis or a oh, I could have died, like some sort of like big trauma, the fact that tomorrow is not promised gets thrown in your face. It is a very, very quick way for two things to happen. One, for you to like have a giant mirror in front of you asking you like if you died tomorrow, would you be at all okay with how you've lived your life and what you've done? Like have you focused on the things that actually matter? The second part of that is when you, when it's a close family member, and especially when you lose them. So he did, he passed, I was holding his hand as he passed, and losing someone like that will strip you raw. So, like all of these facades, all these masks that you have built up, all this conditioning gets completely stripped away and you feel raw. So, like all of these facades, all these masks that you have built up, all this conditioning gets completely stripped away and you feel raw. And it's a this moment of like who am I right now? We could go way down that rabbit hole. There's obviously a lot more there, but if you take those two into consideration, for me that was a giant aha moment of like holy crap, I have a long list of accolades. Like if someone looked at like my resume, they'd be like holy shit, that's amazing. She lived a full life.

Speaker 2:

But like I didn't feel fulfilled, like that deep sense of joy, fulfillment, those things that we're looking for. Like I hadn't felt that or anything close to that right. Like I had just been go, go, go check all the boxes. My life looked great on paper but I felt empty inside. My life looked great on paper but I felt empty inside. And on top of that, I was faced with like wait, who am I? Like? Who am I actually when you take away all the conditioning and all these stories and all the shoulds, like I don't actually know the answer to that, and so I started really diving into that.

Speaker 2:

At the same time, after he passed, I got certified in oncology rehab, so I started working with cancer patients. So again they had the same like mirror situation right, recognizing their priorities and where they needed to shift. And even just in talking with them through our sessions, I started to realize, between their feedback and kind of my own ahas, that I have this natural way to listen to someone and be able to pick out very quickly like okay, this is actually what lights you up. All this other stuff is this like kind of off the beaten path stuff that's like really clouded and shoulds or you feel like it's the easier path, but this is actually what lights you up. Like how about we explore that? How can we take your current skillset and your current background and apply it so that you can actually make this a reality for you? So eventually, after years and years and years of right, because we don't recognize in ourselves early on. So it took a bunch of my patients like saying like hey, this is how you've helped me beyond the physical and then, of course, hitting burnout again because I tried to go too hard in that direction too fast and fell back into my own patterns. But all of this to say that's how I ended up.

Speaker 2:

I started diving into trauma-informed care and somatic-informed care, which is just a fancy way of saying mind-body connection, and how we really can actually figure out what's true for us. And we cannot do it alone. That's the thing is. Far too often I fall in this trap myself. All the time we try to figure it out on our own because we're like no, like I can figure me out, like I should be the one to figure out who I am and what I want in my path. No, you cannot read your own label from inside your own bottle. You need someone who's going to be the guide to the mirror to help you see your path forward. So that is what I do, and it was a very, very kind of like windabout way to get me there through the physical health realm. But you cannot separate the various realms physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, like they're all interconnected, and so I think that's really important for people to realize, and when something is often one of them, it is going to affect the others eventually. Anyways, that was a really long one, yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just curious too on how you made that jump from like are you still practicing as a doctor now with oncology patients? Like did you make a leap to like working more with virtual Cause? I know you live like all over the place, you're all over, so it's like how? Like, where did you make that jump?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it was a couple different things. So I first jumped into, I fell into the trap that we all do, right, I fell into, literally fell into the trap that I was helping teach people like not to do. I took the quote unquote easier path. So, as a doctor of physical therapy, the easiest way to get out of the BS that is, the healthcare and insurance based model, is to go cash. And so I was like, okay, cool, like I can treat patients how I want, I can make more money, I can figure out how to like create this other thing that I want to do. And so I went into a cash clinic. Well, as a PT, like you don't have business school. So, like any entrepreneur knows, like it's not, you switch like a nine to five for a 24, seven if you're not careful.

Speaker 2:

So I fell into that trap of just hustling hard and, even though I was going about it in a way that felt better, like it wasn't just go, go, go, but I still was just using up all of my time and my energy in various different ways. So that's where, like, the next burnout actually hit. It wasn't with oncology patients, it was when I opened up my own clinic and started to develop these other skills more right Like so all the things that I do with the coaching. So, but that was a three-year process of really learning how to get out of my own way, while also, like, at the same time, starting to coach up others on how to get out of their own way and see it clearly, right Like who. I think everyone can relate to this. We're so much better at helping others than we can ourselves, like I could do it for everyone else, but it took a really long time for me to get out of my own way.

Speaker 2:

Now I do still treat, but that's actually a very, very recent like return to the clinic and it looks very different. So I just kind of pick up as needed gigs so it's called PRN, if anyone's familiar with that where I just basically get in, do orientation with the company and then I can kind of like pick up shifts when someone needs time off. And that's because, honestly, to be fully transparent, 2024 was a rough year and there were a lot more people being like, nope, I can do it on my own, which, as a coach, meant that my income dropped drastically, and so it it forced me to take a hard look and I was like okay, how can I create more space? I can work for a clinic. I can find one that at least aligns with my values enough that I am okay with picking up like two days a week.

Speaker 1:

And is that process really hard? And now I'm just like curious Cause like, again, I'm Canadian, so we do things differently up here too. Not that I totally understand the doctor's world anyway, but like where you have like a mobile life, right, you live in your van, sometimes you're moving around, you can be in like state to state to say, different places. How does that work? Do you need to get like registered every time that you come through?

Speaker 2:

Every state is a different license. Yes, so I can only pull that off when I am back in Arizona. Okay, cool. Now the kicker to that is there is something called compact state, so like I can kind of like pay the fees for another state and get like an easy license transference, kind of. That's the easiest way to explain it. So I can, and a lot of states have picked that up, and so when I start to travel again the next time, I do plan on being able to do that. I'm just going to have to pick and choose, because every state is very different.

Speaker 1:

Interesting and have you found it easier for you, as you've built your coaching practice, to like be like hey, I don't need these same you know registrations or licenses in different provinces, like I can, or States I should say Canadian provinces, states for you but like you can now work everywhere with the lifestyle that you have.

Speaker 2:

So you, but like you, can now work everywhere with the lifestyle that you have. So the coaching I can cross state lines because it has nothing to do with my physical therapy license. It's completely and that's it's frustrating and amazing and beautiful all at the same time. And I say it's frustrating because, as someone who has a doctorate, the fact that there was far like it's like, the more more like, the more educated you are, the more red tape you have put around you with licensure versus.

Speaker 2:

The coaching industry is not regulated, which is both beautiful because it allows a lot more freedom and I can jump around like I could up and move to Bali or Eastern Europe or wherever the hell I wanted, and still see clients in the States and Canada, et cetera. Like my clients for my coaching are everywhere. I can be anywhere for that. The frustrating part is because it's so unregulated. You see a lot of like snakes. Essentially for a lack of a better way to say it there's a lot of people that are misusing the fact that it is an unregulated industry versus, but then there's also plenty of people that are doing due diligence and are amazing at it.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, it is a really interesting process through all of the different levels of coaching, all the things that people are doing, and so what is it that exactly you do as a coach?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So there's really. There's two main ways to work with me and one is really deep dive day retreats, so I call them the choose you day retreat. I'm going to do another one around the spring equinox here in Scottsdale, arizona. So like late March. If people aren't familiar with when that is, it's like when the new year used to be prior to people trying to like mess with, prior to people trying to like mess with when the new year was. So that's like really deep dive, full day retreats that are intended to help you choose yourself.

Speaker 2:

Like how often do we actually just take a day to really pour into ourselves while also getting tangible tips to like figure out where we want to go from there? So that's what those are, my primary thing. I call them the 180 sessions. They I've had a mentor coach call them the career clarity sessions because, again, just like you can't separate physical, mental and emotional, spiritual realms of life, you cannot separate business, personal, like it all is interconnected and so how often, like, if you are really clear and you're making the impact that you want in whatever your career is, whether you're corporate, whether you're entrepreneur, like whatever it is if something is off there, it starts to affect relationships, personal life, all these other things. So I take a little bit of focus on that, but I don't purely focus on career. But the 180 is, it's the 180 you're looking for in life, and 180 minutes. So I really love when I was getting into this. I could find various things that kind of did what I did, but they were a little bit more niched into like one aspect of your life, like they didn't take all of you into consideration. But even those, most of them were like 12 month masterminds or this five month coaching program or something that took a lot of time. Now, granted, I think there's a lot of value in that, and if you're someone who operates at that pace and needs something that's more gradual over time, great, and I do that in my coaching things.

Speaker 2:

But my 180 is, when I say coaching things, I mean like continued coaching. But you have to do a 180 with me first, because that's where we do the deep dive. Like I'm the kind of person and a lot of I know there's a lot of women that are like me where you want to jump both feet into the fire and get going like right now, like you're, like I've made the decision, I'm ready to go. Like, what do I have to do? So it's 90 minutes of pre-work and that pre-work you basically minutes of pre-work and that pre-work you basically you.

Speaker 2:

You complete an intake that I've designed using my methodology and I then develop very individualized pre-work for you. Now that pre-work is mostly reflection prompts, but they make you go really deep. Like over 50% of my clients, unprompted from me, have reached out and been like this was worth it by itself, like the amount of insight I've gotten from this is next level. And then I take that information and we schedule a 90 minute call where we can go deeper in real time and I can have you take action in real time. So you leave by the end of it you get really clear on who am I, what do I want, how do I take all of these ideas that I like?

Speaker 2:

Wouldn't it be cool if things in my head that I don't see how they fit together in like a really nice puzzle, like that's my job. I help it, all the pieces fit together and make a really clear path forward for you with very clear, tangible, powerful action steps that we can start even on the call. And then I do a one-week follow-up included with that, but the intention of them is so that then we move into whichever of my coaching packages works better for you. Some of them are high touch, some of them are super low touch, depending on what you want and need.

Speaker 1:

Cool, that's awesome. And when it comes to the work that you're doing, you do a lot of focus on burnout and, as someone who's been through you say, 10 rounds of burnout like that is a lot, my friend, like that is a lot. What are the symptoms of burnout for someone listening to this? Because, as you said, like 2024, doozy of a year and doozy of a year for a lot of people. What are the symptoms that they should be looking for when it comes to burnout?

Speaker 1:

and like what are those first steps that they take if they're starting to notice some of those things? Because burnout and overwhelm some people it can be confusing, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and part of why it gets really confusing is because there isn't a one-size-fits-all answer for everybody, like with most things in life. So for burnout, the biggest things that I say to look for that are a little bit different, I think, than overwhelm is an increased frequency of irritability, meaning it takes less for you to get irritable, whether it's with yourself, a client Often I see it with loved ones, first and foremost because they're your safe space where you like subconsciously, know that you can push a little bit there, versus, like people tend to not see it as readily with clients or acquaintances. Um, so, but it's, it takes less for you to get irritable. But also the frequency Cause. I think with overwhelm, right, we can snap a little bit, but for the most part it's not going to be like an increased frequency where we're like what is up with me, right. So that's one of the biggest things of burnout. The other one is you're going to feel like the hamster wheel just keeps spinning faster, like the hamster wheel that you're on is just getting faster and you have less and less time and energy for things. You take rest and it doesn't actually feel restorative. You just feel like you need more rest or you very quickly, like with overwhelm.

Speaker 2:

If you go on a vacation, you're going to come back and you're actually going to feel restored and you're going to get back into things and you're going to have better capacity With burnout. You take a trip and a couple things could happen Well, or just take time off. It doesn't even need to be a trip. A couple things could happen that are very common. You're either going to get sick because your body's finally like oh sweet, you slowed down enough and just dumps on you, and that could be either you get sick immediately or, like upon returning, like somewhere in that timeframe, you're getting sick. And the other is that you come back and, instead of feeling restored, like maybe you have a couple of days or a week, and then you're like I, why do I need another vacation already? So those are probably the biggest ones. There's a lot.

Speaker 2:

It also can show up as physical symptoms Overwhelm you're not typically going to have physical manifestations of an emotional or mental problem. Burnout you will. It could be random aches and pains. It could feel like your knee pain is flaring up sooner than you would have expected with squats. That's my personal example, by the way. It could be that you're having GI issue flare-ups, it could be like, if anyone is familiar with like adrenal fatigue symptoms, like those could pop up with burnout very readily. Headaches are very common and, again, like with stress, yes, you can get maybe a tension headache, but I'm talking more like think of the increase in frequency or the fact that it feels like it's less stimulus for it to come on that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2:

And it is. It's sneaky to notice because a lot of times people can justify as oh, I didn't get enough water, oh, there's just a lot going on, or it's just, you know, I, I just need to do X, y and Z, like we're easy, quick to justify it. And then I would also say, like friends and family, you can kind of get a read a little bit. I start to notice that, like the people that really know me are either trying to like placate a little bit more, like they are, they're like making excuses for me, or like, especially if your friends are always like, oh, I know you're really busy right now, or like they're oh, I just assumed you didn't have time Like check yourself, because even if you're not in burnout, that's a really good sign that your priorities might be a little bit off and or you need to audit, like who you choose to spend your time around.

Speaker 1:

Right. So there's a lot of like, so many different ways to even look at it. I think in our society too, we normalize so many of those things right, like obviously we're going to be tired, obviously I'm going to have a headache. Like this is the world we live in, like it's a fast paced world, and so to be able to check yourself is often really difficult too. Do you have like a like a step, like hey, if you notice one of these things, this is the first thing you should do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I am huge on journaling because it allows us to kind of get everything out of our head and onto paper, and you can talk through things, you can think through things, but there's nothing quite like putting pen to paper. That will actually allow you to kind of see the patterns, and even just the conscious stream of writing can help bring things up that you may or may not have connected. Now, one key to this is being brutally honest with yourself, right, like you'll kind of know if you're just writing down things and the back of your head's like that's like now you're just justifying where you're at. But I really love journaling of like, first off, am I happy? And if the answer is no, like where is my responsibility in this? And I think that's really key Like that's a big audit, because the you can, like I want to at some point I do want people to go down the rabbit hole of like where are my priorities as far as like, time, money, energy, who am I spending my time with? First and foremost, though, is like, where am I responsible for my current reality and how is it different than what I want my reality to look like? So I think that's a big key is getting really, really honest with yourself, first and foremost, on hey, where's my responsibility in this? And with zero judgment. That's the other key. Do this with zero judgment, zero shame, right, because that's not going to be helpful or conducive and it's just going to put you probably more in the pattern of burnout.

Speaker 2:

If you're someone who tends to guilt yourself or feel a lot of self-shame, you're inadvertently putting yourself more and more into burnout. Or if you're not there yet closer to the threshold, because you're unintentionally draining your nervous system. And our nervous system really is like how, whatever our nervous system's capacity to hold all the things is what determines if we're in burnout or not. Really at the end of the day, like it's, it's linked. So I think that's first and foremost, um, and that's probably the least overwhelming one, because if I'm working with someone who's truly in burnout, I want to do that first and I also want to have them do some journaling where we look at like okay, what are the things that are good, what are the things that are bringing you joy and how can you do more of them.

Speaker 2:

Because then it goes into yes, we can do time audits, like that's huge for seeing, like where you're leaking energy and time. We want to figure out okay, cool, where are the gaps? Where do you need more boundaries? That's huge, like if you don't have boundaries, you're in burnout I'm sorry Period You're. Also, lack of boundaries are a breeding ground for resentment, and if I jump right into those now, we're putting the onus on everyone else versus it's really on us. Like, what can we control and where are we trying to control things that we don't actually need to be?

Speaker 1:

Right, right, yeah and I love how you say that too Like if you don't have boundaries, you're probably in burnout Cause. I can think about that a lot, especially now in the season that I'm in. I'm like there have been a lot of boundaries that have to go into place in order to make this like a viable season for me. So I it's really interesting that we even put the focus there, because sometimes again in this society, it is a difficult one to to hold. So, yeah, I also have a really big question too. I was watching some of your posts earlier about just 2024 in general and 2024 being the year that broke you. But really, instead of that focus being on what broke you it broke you open and when it comes to burnout and all these things we've been talking about, I'd love to hear about your own journey through this. Like, how are you finding this to be like okay, like it's been a hard season, but it broke me open, like to be able to focus on that piece. How does that work for you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I do want to say that I didn't. What's interesting with this year is it wasn't burnout that broke me, it was just all these little things. And again, I think the biggest thing is really being able to flip it into self-reflection. And what kept coming to me with all the little things that we're adding up is like, okay, there is like I can hold some responsibility for this. Here's where I let a boundary go, or I let multiple boundaries go, and it piled up.

Speaker 2:

Or the other thing that I'll say is this concept of, instead of it breaking you, it breaking you open, even just that simple mindset shift, like whatever you're going through, whoever's listening, if you're going through something that felt like you can't breathe, like I'm going to use grief, is a little bit of an easier example for me to use. So, in 2017, when my dad died, very similarly, it felt like it completely broke me. Similarly, it felt like it completely broke me and when I started to actually address how I was feeling and really allowed myself to feel everything and work through it, then I got to see like how, how, like my own patterns had kind of led to how I was feeling my grief right, like it will. Like I said earlier, like that paper mache cracking you wide open, taking away all the facades and the masks. If we allow struggles to be the setup in that way of like, okay, now I'm stripped raw. What can I build back from that? How do I want to build back from that? Rather than what society would often tell us to do is just to put on a pretty face or to cover, like close up, all that is going to do is you're going to take all those old patterns that just got broken away and throw them right back on you, and you're not going to actually grow and make the progress. You're just going to be in this cyclical pattern, which is not what you want, right?

Speaker 2:

So there, there were a lot of things that happened this year, um, and at the same time, I can recognize that there wasn't any one big event, like my dad dying in 2017,. It was little things that I then justified or allowed to build up. So, like when depression hit really bad in August of this year, it was I wasn't holding the boundaries. I had let go of a lot of the nervous system regulation tools that I have. I wasn't doing especially like I wasn't doing my grounding routines. I had pulled away from friends, unintentionally. Right Like I, I like my solo time and I'd use that as a justification to not reach out while I was traveling. Right, like, oh, I'm away, they're busy, like all these things. And so all of that built up to then when one little thing happened that was like the straw that broke the camel's back for my system and I was just an absolute wreck.

Speaker 2:

And I think that we can all do this, whether it's pushing yourself so hard in every area of your life, right, like I've seen this with friends where they're pushing hard at work and they're saying yes to all the social activities and they're going to the gym seven days a week and not taking a rest day or feeling guilty for it, you can set yourself up for this break open. And I know I'm getting a little off the question here, but I think that was like a great way to circle, kind of like tie the bow on everything on, like the self audit. So something that I'm definitely doing is I'm getting back into my journaling practice, but a huge part of that is doing a self audit of do I still feel like I am on track to where I want to be? Am I finding the joy in the mundane things in life Right, because that break open, I can feel like it. I could take it as like oh, it broke me and honestly, a lot of society would let me get away with that.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

Speaker 2:

They would let me just like wallow in self-pity, but that's not going to help me. So how can I see it for the good? How can I use like, how can I see the little bit of silver linings of like okay, this hurts, this is really hard, and what's the one little thing that I can do for myself today to make this feel a little bit lighter? Right, where am I? What emotions am I feeling and what's underneath them? I think that's the biggest thing is, how often do we sit down and really name our emotions and ask ourselves what's underneath this for me? What is this trying to show me? Right, it could be a pattern that isn't helpful for me. It could be an example that I love to use, that I've definitely been in this place and I've used it with clients is jealousy.

Speaker 2:

If you're feeling jealousy whether of any kind, it could even be as simple as catching yourself when you say like, oh, I wish I could do that, why can't you?

Speaker 2:

You may not be able to do it exactly in the ideal way, you may not be able to do it exactly like you're seeing this other person, but you can make it a reality for you or you can at least do the 1% move towards that right now?

Speaker 2:

So, and it really comes down again, it comes down to being able to name your emotions, feel them, see what's underneath them and then check yourself on. Like, okay cool, what can I control. Like I wish I didn't have to go back into clinic. I wish my business was doing well enough that I could just keep sustaining and growing that. And what's my current reality and what can I do about it? Okay, cool, I can. Instead of having to go back full time, I can keep control over what clinic I work for and how often, and do just enough to create some space so that I can then take a step back and actually work on me, so that I can then take a step back and actually work on me, so that I can then build up the business again, because if I don't work on me, it's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, and I see that for sure and I understand too, like that. I love that you're being so raw about the season that you were in last year and and where you're going and what you're doing differently this year, because I think oftentimes, especially as coaches, we put that mask on where it's like, okay, everything's fine, six figure business over here, everything's great, look at me. And it's so important that we also show the sides of what's going on behind the scenes and what's happening in our lives, because I think that's what makes us most relatable. And you mentioned, too, that you want to be focusing more on journaling this year and I was going to ask, like, is there anything that you want to do differently for 2025? Is it journaling or is it something else that you're like you know what I actually have been thinking about this, like this is the year I'm going to do it this way instead.

Speaker 2:

Journaling is one of them. It's a big thing for me. I have a published journal, I've run journal workshops in the past and, quite frankly, I think I kind of overdid it and so I just needed to step back for a little bit. And I do want to get back into journaling as a self-reflection, self-check process more regularly of what am I feeling today, what's underneath that. The other thing for me is kind of it kind of goes along with the journaling because it'll help keep me on track with this. But just getting back to, I want to be outside more again, which now, granted with living in a bus and traveling, it sets me a little bit up for that. Better, and finding little moments of joy, right, like even on the long work days, like what are the little like you might've seen it's gone around Instagram every now and then on like romanticizing your life, like romanticizing the mundane things. That's what I want to get back to, because it's so easy to fall into the comparison trap or this like oh, it could be better, that can be true. And if you're not happy, now, right.

Speaker 2:

So one of the things I put in that post is with everything, there's a lot of financial stress this year and I came to the realization of like, if I can't find happiness and joy and self-worth when my bank account doesn't match what I want it to be, if I can't find it now, I'm not going to find it, I don't care how much money I make. I've made six figures in a business before and I didn't have it then because I wasn't in the right field, so like. But I don't want to get back there and feel the same way, so like. Rather than focusing on anything else, how can I continue to connect with me Now? Can I continue to connect with joy, no matter what the situation is?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always feel like that's the lesson too right, like universe is going to teach you that lesson, regardless of if you have all the money in the world, or we're at that point where they like break us down and to be like, hey, you got to learn this lesson somewhere. Like, if you're not going to learn in here, you got to learn here. And it's like, oh man, just make this easy for me. That's not how the world works and I love that you have some practices and tools in your tool belt now to be able to be like, hey, we're going to do something differently this year and we're going to find that joy again, romanticize life and do all the things that we love. I can't wait to see that. I can't wait to watch it Use my tools.

Speaker 2:

I realized maybe you've had this experience like when you're on a call with a client and back of your head, you're like you could. We could use this too.

Speaker 1:

I think about that like every podcast episode I do. I'm like this is for me, Like let's be real, I'm talking to myself here. Really, we often are right in podcasting, so I love it. Can you tell our listeners where they can connect with you online, where they can find your podcast, where they can, you know, learn all about what you're doing in the world?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the easiest way is on Instagram. So it is Dr Megan Daly, spelled like my last name, d-a-l-e-y on Instagram, and then all of the links are in there. The biggest one, though, would be or the two biggest would be human, on the daily, the podcast. Again, the link is in there, or you could just go to move on the dailycom slash podcast and then the one eighties. If you want to see what they're about, that is my bread and butter, and it is 100% like yeah, it's the one 80 you're looking for in life, in 180 minutes, and it is incredibly powerful. I have some clients that do it once a year at this point just to kind of check themselves and make sure that they're still on track and see what shifts have happened. So that's moveonthedailycom slash 180.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I have a couple of questions that I ask every guest that comes on the podcast. You ready, yeah. Okay, give it to me. What is your favorite compliment to receive? You ready, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, give it to me. What is your favorite compliment to receive? Oh, easily something along the lines of like that's so you or? Like that's true to you.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah that. I like that. When people can see something, they're like oh, like that is so you and you're like oh, like that's so nice, I love that. What is your favorite thing to do to boost your mood when you're feeling grumpy?

Speaker 2:

Dance. Oh really you dancer. I am a dancer. Yeah, I take hip hop. I've done ballroom in the past. I do.

Speaker 1:

Latin. I do country swing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I just blast music and dance.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I love that. And do you have a song or quote that boosts your confidence?

Speaker 2:

have a song or quote that boosts your confidence. Uh, that okay. So my ADHD ass. That changes on a very regular basis, but the first one that came to mind is actually one that I have not thought about in a while, and it's everything is figureoutable which is Marley Farley.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I love that. That's amazing. Well, thanks, megan, for being here, for hanging out with us, for sharing all your burnout tips with us, cause I think they're going to be so helpful, going into this new year with the right energy. That feels good for us, so thank you so much for being here. Thank you, this was fun. What's up, sis? I am so glad we could hang out today. If you love this episode, send it to a friend or share it on your social media and tag me so I can personally thank you for helping me sprinkle some confidence in the world. And don't forget you are magic. Let's show the world your shine.

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